This newspaper subscription I have is turning out to be quite interesting! Did you know Grandma Hattie had two siblings? Probably Barbara did, but I surely did not. I think I remember Barbara telling me she went to see Hattie's cousin (I thought) because she was in the hospital with cancer. Barbara would have been very young, as Irma Siegfried Long died in 1941. However, she also had a brother named Harry Siegfried, who died in 1982 in Clarks County, Ohio. Who knew?!
I think this is so strange. All of our great nieces and great nephews are aware of who we are, as are our great-greats, even those of us who do not live in the same states as those same greats. I suppose it might have something to do with the closeness of the first generation of Lilleys; my siblings and myself. I never heard Mama say one thing about her Uncle Harry in Ohio. I know that Mama knew about her father's siblings; she mentioned her cousins Marguerite and Ruth Stetter, the children of her Aunt Leah Lines Stetter. I do not recall her ever mentioning her Uncle Henry K. Lines or his three children, Reba, Elva or Anna. I do recall she mentioned her cousin, Elmer Smith, the son of Anna Mary Lines and her husband, John Smith. She told me he was a forest ranger and moved to California after the death of his mother in the 1930's. Aunt Alice was close with her Uncle Jack and Aunt Cora and their cousin Verna Lines, who married a Clausen. They moved to California but Aunt Alice and Sandy kept in touch with them.
On the Lilley side there was our Great Aunt Ida, our Great Uncle Alburtus, our Great Uncle Edward, and Great Uncle Harry Bobbs Lilley. Harry lived in Pottsville, as did his children. In fact, one of his children, Harry O., only died in 1987. Daddy's Uncle Burt and Uncle Edward lived in Reading a good part of the time that Daddy lived there. And Daddy's cousins, his Aunt Ida's children, who were around his age, lived in St. Clair all their lives.
I know that we were close with our aunts and uncles when we were growing up; I remember how everyone would gather at different times at our house in Oley, and in Livingston, a few times in Detroit, and Bloomfield. We had a passing acquaintance with our Lines' cousins and a closer one with our Lilley cousins.
My nieces and nephews are so precious to me that it is hard to think of them not being in my life.
Here are some of the things I have discovered about Grandma Hattie's siblings and some of which I surmise.
Grandma Hattie's mother died in 1898, when Hattie was sixteen years old. Her father died when she was twenty-four. She married Elmer Ellsworth Lines when she was twenty-seven years old. Hattie's sister Irma was,born in 1892, was 6 when her mother died. Her brother, Harry B.(for Boyer, I have always presumed), was born in 1887 and was about 9 when his mother died. In the 1900 Pa census, two years after Henry W. (most likely Womelsdorf) Siegfried lost his wife, he was living with his parents, Daniel Boyer Siegfried and Rebecca Womelsdorf Siegfried, along with is brother Zachary Siegfried and Henry's children, Hattie, 17, Harry B., 12, and Irma, 6. Ages and name spellings were varied in census reports; her death certificate lists Irma as being born in 1892. The 1900 census has her birth as Nov., 1893)
In 1910 Irma was working as a servant in a boarding house on Fourth Street in Reading. In 1920 Irma is in Michigan, working as a stenographer, and getting married to Charles Thompson Long, who was working as a Civil Engineer; during WWI he was a Captain in the 32nd Engineers, U S Army. Charles died in Boyd County, Kentucky, in 1931, although how they got from Ohio, where they were living in the 1930 census, to Kentucky in 1931 I have no clue. It could be that they were on vacation and he died and was, two years later, buried in Arlington National Cemetery (yes, it apparently took two years for him (or probably Irma at his request) to acquire the paperwork that allowed his burial in ANC).In fact, when Irma died in 1941 she was buried with her husband in Arlington National Cemetery. I am assuming that Irma moved back to Reading after she was widowed as I found her death certificate listing Alice Boyer as her mother and Henry W. Siegfried as her father and Capt. Charles Thompson Long as her husband. It was noted on the certificate that that her body was to be removed to Arlington National Cemetery. I have seen a photo of their headstones; they are buried in the south section, 4269-E. When Irma died she had been living at 609 North 5th Street in Reading (also information gleaned from the death certificate) although I did not find her on any 1940 census of Reading. I am still looking for that, though.
So that takes care of Irma, her little sister. It is not so unreasonable for them to have lost touch if Irma moved to Michigan. (Don't you wonder how she got from Reading to Michigan, and went from being a domestic to a stenographer? ) I think, just from the indications I had from Mama and a bit from Barbara that Granddad Lines was not exactly the warmest person in the world. I guess I could see him not opening his arms to Grandma Hattie's relatives. I have always had a feeling that he was not happy in his marriage; perhaps he felt trapped in the marriage as they were married on September 25, 1909 and Mama was born on March 31, 1910. I surely wish there was someone I could ask.
She did have a brother, Harry Boyer Siegfried . As I have said, Harry was 12 in the 1900 census. I have found him nowhere in the 1910 census. I did find his WWI registration form, filled out in 1917, which indicated he was married, with one child, and living in York, Pa., and working as a machinist for the York Manufacturing Co. It also indicated he was born in Reading and, in fact, his middle name was Boyer. I found him again in the 1920 census, still living in York, with his wife, Edna M. Siegfried. They had a daughter, Dorothy LOUISE, who was 6 years old. By 1930 they had moved to Columbus, Ohio, and had one additional child, Billie Siegfried, age 1 in 1930. He was born in Ohio in 1929. In the 1940 census, they were still living in the same house on Glenmont Avenue in Columbus; Harry was now listed as an accountant. Edna, although she completed 1 year of college, was 'keeping house', Dorothy was 27 and living at home, her occupation listed as stenographer, and William was now 11, and in 4th grade. The 1950 census will not be available for a few more years, but I would bet that they stayed at the same house for quite sometime. However, I found William H in California in 1956, marrying a woman named Lois M Peterson. In 1958 William H and Lois were living in Santa Monica and William was involved in 'Missile Wkr". In 1993 he was living in Costa Mesa, California.
As for Dorothy, I cannot find her after 1940. She possibly married; she possibly moved to California. Harry and Edna lived in Ohio for the rest of their lives. Harry Boyer died at the age of 94 in 1982.
Edna Morris Siegfried died at the age of 82 in 1967 at the age of 82. They are both buried at the Columbus, Ohio, Union Cemetery.
I think this is so strange. All of our great nieces and great nephews are aware of who we are, as are our great-greats, even those of us who do not live in the same states as those same greats. I suppose it might have something to do with the closeness of the first generation of Lilleys; my siblings and myself. I never heard Mama say one thing about her Uncle Harry in Ohio. I know that Mama knew about her father's siblings; she mentioned her cousins Marguerite and Ruth Stetter, the children of her Aunt Leah Lines Stetter. I do not recall her ever mentioning her Uncle Henry K. Lines or his three children, Reba, Elva or Anna. I do recall she mentioned her cousin, Elmer Smith, the son of Anna Mary Lines and her husband, John Smith. She told me he was a forest ranger and moved to California after the death of his mother in the 1930's. Aunt Alice was close with her Uncle Jack and Aunt Cora and their cousin Verna Lines, who married a Clausen. They moved to California but Aunt Alice and Sandy kept in touch with them.
On the Lilley side there was our Great Aunt Ida, our Great Uncle Alburtus, our Great Uncle Edward, and Great Uncle Harry Bobbs Lilley. Harry lived in Pottsville, as did his children. In fact, one of his children, Harry O., only died in 1987. Daddy's Uncle Burt and Uncle Edward lived in Reading a good part of the time that Daddy lived there. And Daddy's cousins, his Aunt Ida's children, who were around his age, lived in St. Clair all their lives.
I know that we were close with our aunts and uncles when we were growing up; I remember how everyone would gather at different times at our house in Oley, and in Livingston, a few times in Detroit, and Bloomfield. We had a passing acquaintance with our Lines' cousins and a closer one with our Lilley cousins.
My nieces and nephews are so precious to me that it is hard to think of them not being in my life.
Here are some of the things I have discovered about Grandma Hattie's siblings and some of which I surmise.
Grandma Hattie's mother died in 1898, when Hattie was sixteen years old. Her father died when she was twenty-four. She married Elmer Ellsworth Lines when she was twenty-seven years old. Hattie's sister Irma was,born in 1892, was 6 when her mother died. Her brother, Harry B.(for Boyer, I have always presumed), was born in 1887 and was about 9 when his mother died. In the 1900 Pa census, two years after Henry W. (most likely Womelsdorf) Siegfried lost his wife, he was living with his parents, Daniel Boyer Siegfried and Rebecca Womelsdorf Siegfried, along with is brother Zachary Siegfried and Henry's children, Hattie, 17, Harry B., 12, and Irma, 6. Ages and name spellings were varied in census reports; her death certificate lists Irma as being born in 1892. The 1900 census has her birth as Nov., 1893)
In 1910 Irma was working as a servant in a boarding house on Fourth Street in Reading. In 1920 Irma is in Michigan, working as a stenographer, and getting married to Charles Thompson Long, who was working as a Civil Engineer; during WWI he was a Captain in the 32nd Engineers, U S Army. Charles died in Boyd County, Kentucky, in 1931, although how they got from Ohio, where they were living in the 1930 census, to Kentucky in 1931 I have no clue. It could be that they were on vacation and he died and was, two years later, buried in Arlington National Cemetery (yes, it apparently took two years for him (or probably Irma at his request) to acquire the paperwork that allowed his burial in ANC).In fact, when Irma died in 1941 she was buried with her husband in Arlington National Cemetery. I am assuming that Irma moved back to Reading after she was widowed as I found her death certificate listing Alice Boyer as her mother and Henry W. Siegfried as her father and Capt. Charles Thompson Long as her husband. It was noted on the certificate that that her body was to be removed to Arlington National Cemetery. I have seen a photo of their headstones; they are buried in the south section, 4269-E. When Irma died she had been living at 609 North 5th Street in Reading (also information gleaned from the death certificate) although I did not find her on any 1940 census of Reading. I am still looking for that, though.
So that takes care of Irma, her little sister. It is not so unreasonable for them to have lost touch if Irma moved to Michigan. (Don't you wonder how she got from Reading to Michigan, and went from being a domestic to a stenographer? ) I think, just from the indications I had from Mama and a bit from Barbara that Granddad Lines was not exactly the warmest person in the world. I guess I could see him not opening his arms to Grandma Hattie's relatives. I have always had a feeling that he was not happy in his marriage; perhaps he felt trapped in the marriage as they were married on September 25, 1909 and Mama was born on March 31, 1910. I surely wish there was someone I could ask.
She did have a brother, Harry Boyer Siegfried . As I have said, Harry was 12 in the 1900 census. I have found him nowhere in the 1910 census. I did find his WWI registration form, filled out in 1917, which indicated he was married, with one child, and living in York, Pa., and working as a machinist for the York Manufacturing Co. It also indicated he was born in Reading and, in fact, his middle name was Boyer. I found him again in the 1920 census, still living in York, with his wife, Edna M. Siegfried. They had a daughter, Dorothy LOUISE, who was 6 years old. By 1930 they had moved to Columbus, Ohio, and had one additional child, Billie Siegfried, age 1 in 1930. He was born in Ohio in 1929. In the 1940 census, they were still living in the same house on Glenmont Avenue in Columbus; Harry was now listed as an accountant. Edna, although she completed 1 year of college, was 'keeping house', Dorothy was 27 and living at home, her occupation listed as stenographer, and William was now 11, and in 4th grade. The 1950 census will not be available for a few more years, but I would bet that they stayed at the same house for quite sometime. However, I found William H in California in 1956, marrying a woman named Lois M Peterson. In 1958 William H and Lois were living in Santa Monica and William was involved in 'Missile Wkr". In 1993 he was living in Costa Mesa, California.
As for Dorothy, I cannot find her after 1940. She possibly married; she possibly moved to California. Harry and Edna lived in Ohio for the rest of their lives. Harry Boyer died at the age of 94 in 1982.
Edna Morris Siegfried died at the age of 82 in 1967 at the age of 82. They are both buried at the Columbus, Ohio, Union Cemetery.