The Harting Connection (This is research I reported on at our last Genealogy Work Group)
Objective
I want to find supplemental Revolutionary War ancestors. Ideally I would like to find a LIlley Revolutionary War ancestors, but at this moment I am at a standstill with Lilley genealogy. I am hoping that, once I get Ted Lilley III.s DNA test results I will have some leads on the Lilley side of the family. Until then I am searching the Harting line.
Tools
1. Fold3
2.Ancestry.com/Family Search
3.DAR Website
4.Letter to Muhlenberg College Library
Ancestry/Family Search
On Ancestry I found
Christening 3 DEC 1781
Muddy Creek Ch. ,Cocalico,Lancaster,Pennsylvania
Death 20 Nov 1848 Cocalico Lancaster PA
Burial November 1848
Denver, Pennsylvania (which is where Muddy Creek Cemetery is located)
It showed his parents as Christian Harting and Margaretha Weinhold.
Christian immigrated in 1750 per the Rupp book of A Collection of Upwards of 30,000 names……I am sure everyone knows that book.
Christian Harting 1725–1779 • LH81-7L5 Margaretha
Weinhold Margaretha Weinhold 1730–1810 • LH81-7LW with a marriage date of 1750
There was also a book source noted:
BIRTH-CHRISTENING: PASTORAL ACTS OF MUDDY CREEK CHURCH (Lutheran); Muhlenberg College Library, 929.3748 R311.
I have written to the Muhlenberg College to see if someone can do some research for me. Have not heard back from them yet.
*A note for my sweet girl Susie; If you would care to take a trip to the college and photocopy the records I would be appreciative!
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DAR Website Ancestor search
Birth: -1-1758 COCALICO TWP LANCASTER CO PENNSYLVANIA
This Christian is definitely the son.
Since the DAR website does not already have Christian Harding/Harting the Dad documented as a Patriot I would have to start from scratch to prove his service. Much more difficult than with Daniel Womelsdorf, who was already used by another branch of the family as a Patriot ancestor.
Conclusion
Why, you might ask, do I care about other Patriot ancestors, since I already have my DAR membership.
Well, it is not so much that I care to add another pin to my DAR ribbon (my friend Jan has 12 supplementals, which definitely looks cool), but more than that it is like unraveling a puzzle. I do not think that who I am is only a reflection of those that came before me, except, perhaps, our parents. What brings me joy is looking, and finding, connections to our past. Even looking and not finding is finding out something.
The leader of our genealogy work group, Steve, always asks this around the time we have our Christmas luncheon which takes place at the Brew Pub in Long Valley. His question is
"Are we a genealogy group with a drinking problem or a drinking group with a genealogy problem?"
Since most of us drink a minimal amount I am sure it is the latter;0)
I am hoping that I can find definitive information that shows
I want to find supplemental Revolutionary War ancestors. Ideally I would like to find a LIlley Revolutionary War ancestors, but at this moment I am at a standstill with Lilley genealogy. I am hoping that, once I get Ted Lilley III.s DNA test results I will have some leads on the Lilley side of the family. Until then I am searching the Harting line.
Tools
1. Fold3
2.Ancestry.com/Family Search
3.DAR Website
4.Letter to Muhlenberg College Library
Ancestry/Family Search
On Ancestry I found
- Lavinia Harting, born 1818 (the same year as our Lavinia who, you will remember, is Mother, Anna May Lilley's great grandmother; see previous blog about finding Barbara Alice ) with a sister Fianna
- A Fianna Harting Weaver buried in the Muddy Creek Union Cemetery (Note: Lavinia Harting Boyer buried there) with this notation on Find-a-Grave
- Fianna Harting married in 1839 in Epharta to a John Weaver. (Note: Lavinia and Jacob married in Epharta a year after Fianna)
- I found a death certificate for an Adam Weaver, whose parents were listed as John Weaver and Fianna Harting. (Note the naming of Adam after his grandfather; the same naming pattern as Lavinia for her son)
- Baptism record for Joh. Adam Hating born Nov. 17, 1781, whose parents were listed as Christian and wf Margaretha.
- An 1800 census from Cocalico Township stating Adam Harting was a resident.
- Joh. Adam Harting Born 17 NOV 1777
Christening 3 DEC 1781
Muddy Creek Ch. ,Cocalico,Lancaster,Pennsylvania
Death 20 Nov 1848 Cocalico Lancaster PA
Burial November 1848
Denver, Pennsylvania (which is where Muddy Creek Cemetery is located)
It showed his parents as Christian Harting and Margaretha Weinhold.
Christian immigrated in 1750 per the Rupp book of A Collection of Upwards of 30,000 names……I am sure everyone knows that book.
Christian Harting 1725–1779 • LH81-7L5 Margaretha
Weinhold Margaretha Weinhold 1730–1810 • LH81-7LW with a marriage date of 1750
There was also a book source noted:
BIRTH-CHRISTENING: PASTORAL ACTS OF MUDDY CREEK CHURCH (Lutheran); Muhlenberg College Library, 929.3748 R311.
I have written to the Muhlenberg College to see if someone can do some research for me. Have not heard back from them yet.
*A note for my sweet girl Susie; If you would care to take a trip to the college and photocopy the records I would be appreciative!
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- Information for Christian Harting and the Revolutionary War. Apparently Christian had a son named Christian, who served in the Revolution.
- 1779 Return of Effective Supply Tax for Lancaster County, but apparently Christian the Dad died in 1779, so it is probably Christian the son and brother of Adam John, although my friend Christine Murphy said not to lose hope that it is the Dad because he might have died after the tax was paid. And, BTW, service in the Revolutionary War was not restricted to being a soldier, but paying taxes in support of the war was considered service, as was supplying goods.
- Pennsylvania Archives… Series 3 › Volume XVII › Returns for the Fifteenth Eighteen-Penny Tax for the County of Lancaster. 1772 on Page:266 the name Chr. Harting, which is most likely the abbreviation of Christian and might be the Dad. The son, Christian, would only have been 14 in 1772, though by 1776 he would have been 18 and old enough to be a soldier.
- Two Christian Hartings in the “Muster Rolls and Papers Relating to the Associators and Militia of the County of Lancaster” on page 467 (Father and son?)
- I found Christian Harting in Pennsylvania Archives Series 6 Volume III Militia Rolls- 1783-1790 on Page 518
DAR Website Ancestor search
- HARDING, CHRISTIAN Ancestor #: A211887
Birth: -1-1758 COCALICO TWP LANCASTER CO PENNSYLVANIA
This Christian is definitely the son.
Since the DAR website does not already have Christian Harding/Harting the Dad documented as a Patriot I would have to start from scratch to prove his service. Much more difficult than with Daniel Womelsdorf, who was already used by another branch of the family as a Patriot ancestor.
Conclusion
Why, you might ask, do I care about other Patriot ancestors, since I already have my DAR membership.
Well, it is not so much that I care to add another pin to my DAR ribbon (my friend Jan has 12 supplementals, which definitely looks cool), but more than that it is like unraveling a puzzle. I do not think that who I am is only a reflection of those that came before me, except, perhaps, our parents. What brings me joy is looking, and finding, connections to our past. Even looking and not finding is finding out something.
The leader of our genealogy work group, Steve, always asks this around the time we have our Christmas luncheon which takes place at the Brew Pub in Long Valley. His question is
"Are we a genealogy group with a drinking problem or a drinking group with a genealogy problem?"
Since most of us drink a minimal amount I am sure it is the latter;0)
I am hoping that I can find definitive information that shows
- Lavinia is, in fact, the daughter of Adam John or John Adam Harting and Maria Unknown (possibly Noll or Null) (a birth record )
- That Christian, the father of Adam John or John Adam Harting, did serve in the Revolutionary War in some capacity. (Being able to prove that Christian the Dad paid those taxes and/or fought in the war.)